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, durbin of illinois tad saying nothing should be left off the table in search of budget cuts, and new sources of revenue, the assistant majority leader allowing the changes in the president's signature legislative achievement should be on the table. that's right, obamacare. >> put everything on the table. repeat, put everything on the tail, not just taxes and revenue, but spending cuts and entitlement reform. the only perfect law i know was carried down a mountain by senator moses. lou: what should be positive words for republicans tempered by the fact that senator durbin has no standing as the president's representative in the negotiation, and harry reid is telling a far different stories. john boehner and his caucus, the target, again, of senator reid's blame game. the senate majority leader insistent that republicans are the only onee in the way of the deal. reid asked point blank what the first thing would be, and he offered this curious answer. >> well, remember, we've already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. we've already done that. we need to get some credit for
now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin couldn't sell it. >> dick durbin couldn't sell peanut butter to children. megyn: was raising retirement age one year, 20 or 30 years from now. >> here's the deal. the simpson-bowles commission was only a starter. it wasn't a solution. the reality is this government is too big, growing too fast, trying to do too much for too many. a child, a 12-year-old with a basic understanding in this country that would equate to, a second grade math comprehension could understand this isn't working. and we have people playing such games, such silly games in washington. and do we go over the cliff? right now i would say the odds are very high that we do because these people have no appreciation for their responsibilities. either to themselves, their constituents or to the country. megyn: lou dobbs, always interesting talk
back. that was senator dick durbin of illinois who voted for the simpson/bowles plan and today he served on the commission and voted for the proposal. i'll say it again and again even though it includes significant entitlement cuts and he as a democrat doesn't like that. the upcoming december 31st deadline, the so-called cliff, anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at all. former senator alan simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. and avoiding the mess that awaits us come december 31st. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the president wants a deal. the president would obviously like to include something on revenues. the conservatives may not want to go along with that. but if it will include something on revenues. the best push is coming from people i don't normally side with like tom donohue
satellite corp. 2012] >> also live in washington this morning, coming up at 11:30 a.m., dick durbin will be speaking about the so-called fiscal cliff and that is a reduction -- and deficit reduction. we will have that live here on c-span at 11:30 a.m. eastern. over at the white house today, president obama is meeting with small business owners. at 12:30, jay carney will hold a press briefing and take questions from reporters. this afternoon, the president and vice president will meet with the mexican president who takes office december 1. the press briefing today at 12:30. on capitol hill, the house of representatives returns today at 2:00 p.m. eastern on their agenda this afternoon five bills including a measure requiring the department of a homeland security to report on security. later this week, a student visa program. also this week, the democratic leadership elections. that will be coming up later this week. live coverage of the house at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a number of senators have been meeting with u.n. ambassador susan rice in the wake of her comments following the attack on
is this this is an interesting comment. dick durbin has been on the show and he's so rational and open to compromise. he was open to closing loopholes and not raising rates. he's a rational man, and he said yesterday that democrats shouldn't be talking about cutting social security. here he is. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. it's a separate funded operation. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing, so those who say don't touch it or change it are ignoring the obvious. >> will democrats have the courage to make serious cuts to medicare and not two years over ten years? >> first of all, i think there's a serious cut, and a lot of people that say that people would defer it. >> i'm not implying it's not a serious cut. i'm sorry. i meant you had to do it over a smaller period of time. >> right. i understand. but i want to go back to senator durbin's point. if you want to do something social security, do it. leave social security in the debt aside for the moment, because it doesn't drive debt. i think senator durbin is right on that. they have to negotiat
that is reached before the end of the year. >> this morning, dick durbin didn't really want to get into specifics. you aren't hearing a lot of numbers from a lot of people, but did say he was encouraged. take a listen. >> if i sound bland and general at this point, it's exactly to the point he made. when the doors close and we sit down with revenue on one side, entitlements on the other, then we get specific and come up with a bipartisan plan. >> ryan, to susan's point of who is the president talking to, is this something to be hashed out between president obama and john boehner. >> i guess so. because dick durbin himself has been confusing in what he's been saying publicly. on sunday he said sure medicare and medicaid can be part of the discussion. today he's giving a speech where it should not be part of the conversation. there this morning he's saying once we get into a room, we can start talking about it. and there are ways that i think liberals would agree to do medicare and medicaid. you know, if you're tinkering on the supplier side like, you know, say medical device companies or something
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groups of voters. >> and what about on cuts, james, this is an interesting comment. dick durbin has been on this show, he's such a rational person that seems so open to compromise. he was open to closing loopholes but not raising rates, he's looked for cuts. he's a rational man in many ways. he said yesterday the democrats should not be talking about cutting social security. here he is. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation. medicare's another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if question do nothing. those who say, don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> democrats have the courage to make serious cuts to medicare. >> first of all. i think it's a serious cut. a lot of people that tell you that would defer it. >> i'm not implying it's not a serious cut, i'm sorry, i just meant you would have to do it over a smaller period of time. >> right, i understand, but i want to go back to senator durbin's point, if you want to do something about social security, do something about social security. but leave
weeks. megyn: great to see you. dick durbin will talk about income dave repbgsin differentials in this country. we'll talk about it. megyn: some are calling it the scariest prank ever but it also may be the funnist. however, in between the laughs and the gasps are horror there is a real question about whether this brazilian tv show crossed a legal line with its ghost in an elevator prank. watch. ♪ [screaming] [laughter] megyn: everyone here thinks it's funny, but the question is, is it legal? there could be potential liability here, and we will debate it in today's "kelly's court," i'm taking your tweets on it, follow me@megyn kelly in between now and the court. this one is not so funny. off we go to russia and new worries about the world's worst nuclear nightmare. more than 25 years after the meltdown at the chernoble tpaoubg lar plant workers in the soviet republican of ukraine are beginning to build a giant cap over the facility's still dangerously actor. trace gallagher has that story live from l.a. >> after the disaster the first reaction was to try and cap the radiation
dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
on the table. they don't want to raise tax rates. democrats are saying like dick durbin on abc this week says let's put everything on the table including entitlement reform but then in the next moment dick durbin says he doesn't want to change medicare. take a listen. >> we have got to make sure that there is seemless coverage of affordable health insurance for every american. my concern about raising that medicare retirement age is there will be gaps in coverage. this has been the problem so far. republicans don't want to give in on taxes they say they will will, they will make some concessions but they haven't yet. democrats say they are willing to work and make concessions on entitlement reform but sketchy on the details. both sides know what they need to do to find common ground but they haven't done it yet. >> ed henry at the white house. thanks. president obama has chosen a new head of the securities and exchange regulation. who heads wall street. her name is elise walter. she has been a member of the commission since president george w. bush appointed her in 2008. she is set now to rep
've really got to be willing to as dick durbin said, to sit down and negotiate. >> those were senators dick durbin on "morning joe" and jeanne shaheen on chris jansing discussing entitlement programs. richard and joy, how much leverage does president obama have with the left in terms of making a deal with republicans on medicaid, medicare, social security? >> none. he never does. are you kidding? the left will be disappointed like the day after inauguration day. at the end of the day -- it's kind of a subversive thought but we just had wealthy seniors, seniors in general, vote to get rid of medicare, right? they voted to get rid of medicare as long as no one touched them. if there's some changes that need to be made to the medicare ben fits of wealthy seniors i don't think democrats should make that the hill they die on. that's me. i think democrats are still going to want entitlement programs held harmless. that is true for medicaid and social security. there are things you can theoretically do in terms of raising the cap on how much income is taxed for medicare. things that wouldn't hurt
, a wealthy state. i spoke with senator dick durbin two weeks ago, and we were talking about a compromise, if there was a way to raise the money from the wealthy that the president wants to get from raising tax rates on people or households making over $250,000, whether there was another way to do it. here's another clip of that. >> -- did an analysis saying you could cap deductions at $35,000 and have the estate tax go back to where it was and you get $1.3 trillion. you cap deductions at $25,000 and you've got $1.3 trillion. i'm simply making the point, there's a lot of ways to get there that don't involve raising tax rates, is that a compromise you'd ever consider? >> erin, you're exactly right. but i think what the president's trying to say is let's protect working families. those making less than $250,000 a year, no tax increase for them. we can do it either through the rates or through the deductions in the code, you've given a good illustration. >> and what do you think about that senator warren. durbin making it clear he's -- there's a lot of different ways to get there. would you
to make sure they go up now. dick durbin, number two senate democrat and close to the white house and gave a speech yesterday about the entitlement aspect. medicare, medicaid. the entitlement aspect and basically said we don't want entitlements to be part of the immediate talks january 1st but think as democrats they should be part of longer terms talks for next year. i'm just wondering, is there a sense from the white house among democrats of what it is they're prepared to give in on on terms of entitlement? >> not enough to satisfy the republicans, this's for sure. they say up here they have seen nothing. unfortunately, the few people who are beginning to even talk about the need for eventual compromise like a tom cole, like a dick durbin are quickly getting smacked down here, particularly on the republican side. that congressman just got a spanking from john boehner in front of his caucus today so there's -- doesn't seem to be any movement in that direction. i was at a breakfast with bowles and simpson this morning and erskine bowles saying he think there is's a 1 in 3 chance of this wo
and dick durbin. >>> now to extreme couponing gone wrong. check this out, an expert coupon artist involved in a confrontation with a store manager who refused to honor her coupons. mark greenblatt is on the story. >> you have seen those pictures, frenzy shoppers attacking each other for those deals. this morning, a store manager at a dollar tree physically going after a customer for bringing in too many coupons. you probably heard about extreme couponing by now, thanks to the learning channel. the hobby that's supposed to pay you back in green not in black eyes, like what happened to this extreme couponer in tennessee. her attacker's not a fellow customer it's the store manager herself. melissa and jennifer apparently brought too many coupons to handle. >> we were told that we were harassing her to use those coupons. >> reporter: that's when they recorded the manager getting sassy. >> get the rest of the advil. >> reporter: jennifer left first and watched melissa collected her coupons. when melissa hit the exit, she said instead, she got hit in the face. local police reportedly charged the
's talk about senator dick durbin and president obama's pledged to richard trumka and randi weingarten about no cuts in spending. we don't think to talk about -- demonize them. our center dick durbin and president obama have made it clear they will accept no spending cuts. they made this clear to the union chief. -- our senator from illinois dick durbin. host: what should republicans do or not do? our last caller said republicans should be willing to go over the cliff, it necessary. caller: we should shut the government down, if they cannot agree to any spending cuts. we will be coming up to the debt limit again. they should shut the government down. we will see how the government runs without all these extra programs. senator coburn has identified all the duplication and waste in the government. it is ridiculous that they don't even talk about that. host: senator durban from illinois, let's look and his comments on abc yesterday. he is talking about what democrats would be willing to do to avoid the fiscal cliff. [video clip] >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not
back. eleanor, i'll start with you. let's listen to dick durbin and lindsey graham today. >> okay. >> there's a bipartisan bill passed by the senate that will spare 98% of taxpayers across america from any income tax raises and 90% of the businesses. it's a bipartisan bill the house should pass to make sure we go forward with these negotiations without this specter of tax increases for working families. >> i'm willing to generate revenue as it's fair to ask my party to put revenue on the table below historic averages. i will cap deducks. if you cap deductions around the 30, $40,000 end, you can raise a trillion dollars in revenue and the people who lose their deductions are the upper end americans. >> eleanor, it starts out one way and then it doesn't seem like there's a lot of room. how do you read that? >> i treed as thanksgiving rhetoric. i think the democrats are ready to deal with entitlement reform. zack put that on the table a year and a half ago when they came close to reaching a deal and the republicans are held up on the notion of tax rates. if you listen early to what s
. >> brian: durbin said he would be interested in that. is the president going to keep it to 250,000? that is a negotiating point. if eric cantor said don't talk to me about raising rates that would be wrong. warren buffett says $500,000 should be the threshold. why is the president saying it's $250,000 or i am not signing it? >> kimberly: it's campaign promises. that is his political ideolog ideology. instead of what is best for the country. >> eric: put you on the spot -- >> kimberly: the math shows it won't make a difference. why is he doing it in any way? because he said he would. not good enough reason. obligation to the country. >> bob: he said he wouldn't allow tax cuts to go for people making that money. i think that between that and entitlement reform you will get a deal. >> eric: let me ask this question. i call grover norquist, what is going on here? he said read between the lin lines. only when democrats put up their end of the bargain they would negotiate. if they do, they can change the rate and close a loophole and they will violate a no norquist pledge. should the
for your constituents. but today for example dick durbin, the number two leader of the democrats in the senate came out and gave a policy speech. he has a lot of credibility on deficit reduction. while he said medicare and medicaid changes in those programs should not be part of the first step, the democrats have to look at that down the road in order to be constructive on deficit reduction. this is a senator, liberal democrat, part of the gang of six, somebody with a lot of credibility on deficit issues. i think that opens the door a little bit. you're seeing it on the democratic side. you're seeing it a little bit on the republican side. >> both sides are going to have to open the door more than just a little bit. they're going to have to make a deal. >> because the one mandate from the public was fix things. >> fix it. and do it quick. gloria, thank you. cnn's getting exclusive new information and photographs of paula broadwell, her affair with jen david petraeus forced him to leave the cia. now her friends are coming to her defense. >>> and a 7-year-old cancer patient tries a
the country that mobilize to try and stop cuts. the number two senate democrat, dick durbin, says he'd be open to look at entitlements, but not part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is the senate majority leader's view. >> at the meeting we had that i mentioned with president and the four leaders, president obama said that social security is not part of what is what we're going to do in this. i agree with him. and there are things that i personally believe there are things that we can do with entitlements that don't hurt beneficiaries. >> but if you have each side starting to take things off the table, it makes you wonder if at some point if gets harder to make a deal. shep. >> shepard: mike emmanuel on capitol hill. the white house and president obama will be making their case to regular americans this week. republican leaders say he should be negotiating, not campaigning. he's not the only politician planning a fiscal cliff road trip. we'll go to the white house and the fox report coming up in a bit. first, hours ago, more than 200,000 people crowded into the central square in cairo to call f
democrats like rockefeller, dick durbin and others saying hey, we better not touch entitlements. mr. president, you better watch yourself because we won the election. let's focus on those taxes on the rich. let's deal with entitlement down the line. that scares me. that is unrealistic. it goes against what we heard the president of the united states say. >> dana: when it comes to the math, do the math, they have a good opportunity in front of them. >> we heard senator reid said when asked he couldn't name any of the cut the democrats are willing to offer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. he said, "we need to get credit for cuts previously made." this is today. the cut previously made. i'm scratching my head to figure out what cuts the democrats made prior that they want credit for. if they did make credit cuts why did we run up four more years in a row? start fresh right now. talk about cuts and then talk about how are we going to raise revenues. >> eric: what would -- >> dana: what would harry reid mean by that? get credit on cuts they made. on what? >> bob: that is a $60,000 quest
with dick durbin who came on the show because eric said, okay, we'll do deals on taxes, but you brought up capital gains tax, no. carried interest, no. raising the actual marginal rates, no, we don't want to do that yet when he left we got calls from democrats saying does he really want to make a deal? >> i got two yesterday that -- >> i got e-mails from democrats going wow, he sounds like he wants to make a deal. one senator said did he really mean what he said? considering that he said nothing, yeah, i guess so but it was the tone then yesterday dick durbin came on and we had to basically stop asking about medicare about three or four minutes in because it was nonsensical talking about creating new programs. but this is a guy that also supporting simpson bowles and let us know like eric, we'll make a deal and figure it out. >> both sides at various times tells you something about recent history. you think about where republicans were a year and a half ago, where their attitude was, no, we will not discuss revenues, not one penny, ever, ever, ever so for cantor to say, of course, we'll di
things to be noted. dick durbin gave the encouraging quote. everything should be on the table. we have to get ourselves out of i had to read it three times because he is number two ranking democrat. and i read behind the scenes, it is a disaster in terms of negotiations moving forward . the word they are using is pathetic about the lack of progress. >> steve: logger heads. >> gretchen: which is what i am talking about. this is the quote that steve hayes brought up on the special report on fox news. when president obama was first elected he talked about how to bring down the deficit and campaign promise to cut it in half and he would do it by focusing on entitlement reform. >> steve: there is the national debt right now. >> gretchen: why doesn't he bring the people to the table and say dick dishin. let's put it all on the table and let's talk about them instead of going out on air force one and getting people to use twitter >> chris: the american society of pensional they have a warning called. if congress does change yourr tax rate, there is a possibility that you might have big change
insurance. so we need to find ways to reserve these programs. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water va
the government to work. senators durbin and coburn, both sides, were working on a deal. have you patty murray now empowered by having led the democrats to success in their senate re-election campaign. and she is the incoming head of the budget committee. she is at the table. you've got a group of people on both sides who really want to make this work. and i think the speaker what he is doing as ken just said is sending some red meat, but i don't think anyone seriously thinks that the election mandate is to revisit health care. that is a done deal. >> let me revisit where we started the program this morning. the president believes that a second term agenda is about restoring some faith in the fact that government can work, and this is the first test of that. but then there is immigration reform, which he wants to get done. there's got to be some attention on energy. there's the issue of climate change. but how much of his time is going to be dominated by the necessity for america to figure out what its new strategy is in the middle east, beyond winding down our military forces? because we're neede
. george has a big show. actor/director ben affleck will be here and senator s dick durbin and lindsey graham with george stephanopoulos. >>> extreme couponing gone wrong. check this out. an expert coupon artist involved in a violent confrontation on a discount store who refused to honor her coupons all on tape. mark greenblatt is on the story. mark, good morning. >> and good morning to you. you have seen those pictures, frenzy shoppers attacking each other for those deals. this morning, we got the video of a store manager at a dollar tree physically going after a customer for apparently bringing in too many coupons. you probably heard of extreme couponing by now, thanks to the learning channel show. >> this is "extreme couponing." >> reporter: it's the hobby that's supposed to pay you back in green, not in black eyes, like what happened to this hard-core couponer at the dollar tree in germantown, tennessee. >> as you can see i have broken blood vessels. >> reporter: but her attacker's not a fellow customer, rather, they say, it's the store manager herself. melissa monzo-mart and jenni
durbin has limited company among some of his fellow democrats. keeping them honest during the last budget showdown, both sides talked like this, but then they backed away. also, as we mentioned a moment ago, there are late new signs na nobody is quite ready to cut a deal. another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aide told us that staff level meetings p are meant to lay the groundwork haven't been very productive. one senate republican leadership aide accuses democrats of leaking details in order to portray republicans negatively. the aide notes that the talks are continuing, which ifrts can be read as some sort of progress. whether that's real progress or washington progress remains to be seen. >>> a lot to talk about starting with tennessee republican senator bob corker. senator corker, thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about grover norquist. no new taxes pledge. you said earlier in your career, you told cbs morning news earlier today and i'm quoting now, you said
signs. here is democratic senator dick durbin today speaking about the possibility of a deal on the fiscal cliff. take a listen. >> pick up any of the hill newspapers and look for the full-page ads. basically saying to the left, keep your hands off the entitlements and to the right, keep your hands off of taxes. well, if both sides heed those warnings, nothing will happen. >> congressman, he's right, isn't he? >> of course he's right. and, you know, we have this new book about thomas jefferson and this new movie about abraham lincoln and that great robert carroll book about lyndon johnson. these were people whose greatness came from understanding that the art -- that compromise is the art of politics. that sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. you have to take things into your own hands in terms of negotiating, making deals, compromising things that you know have to be done for the greater good. the greater good is to put this country onto a path of stable financial security. this can be done, but we have to be willing to negotiate, to compromise, and to put aside the p
have people, thoughtful members like my old bass, senator dick durbin, saying that everything is on the table but without being specific about it, because they'll do that behind closed doors as they should, frankly. so, yes, i think the left has a tacit sort of acknowledgment that, yes, in fact, there are going to be some painful things that we have to swallow on the left-hand side of the aisle. we should. if the right's going to separate increases, we should accept certain things like testing, et cetera, because at the end of the day this is about compromise. this is also very much, thomas, about the president's ability to show leadership. you hear the republicans harp on and on about obama not showing leadership. they did it before the campaign, during the campaign, and now they're saying, mr. president, we need you to show some leadership. accept tax rate increases without forcing his own party to accept other things on our side. both sides have to share the pain to get the budget balanced and promote this theory of economic fairness. that's what he's doing out there. >> co
. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order. i don't see republicans supporting something up here that deals with taxes that doesn't have entitlement reform incorporated into that. so i think right now we're a little bit of a standoff, but the way to solve this would be of course to extend the existing tax rates which is by the way something
necessity bankrupt the country. >> some entitlement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator durbin but he thinks social security should be last alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. it is a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, now, played out long term that gives it solvency. >>peter: congressman king says no one will get what he wants but in president reagan and thomas "tip" o'neill could make a deal, so, too, should speaker boehner and president obama. >>gregg: and now the top people responsible for our defense, first, general petraeus resigning as head the c.i.a. amid scandal. there could also be big changes at the pentagon. as well at state department. whoever the president chooses, it could impact, for example, the use of armed drones taking out al qaeda overseas. and lots of other security matters. and now, a fox news contributeor and pollster joining us, and former senior advisor to senator john mccain. the use of the unmanned drones to take out terrorists who want to murder americans, on its face it should be a no-b
distance between republicans and democrats on this issue right now. >> stephanie: senator durbin said this yesterday. >> we're not going to find ourselves in some big party and then turn around and have a doomsday scenario as a debt ceiling. >> stephanie: are we or are they going to do some temporary fix and kick the can down the road? >> caller: well, i hope the debt ceiling is a part of it. the spending cuts, the across the board cuts, the so-called sequester, i think that will get kicked down the road. right now we can't afford to have significant reduction that will impede the economy. i think we need to take a little bit more careful approach to those kinds of cuts if we're going to talk about 1 trillion-dollar over ten years. so i suspect that can will get kicked down the road, but the tax rates really should be dealt with right now. they're easy to deal with. the debt ceiling should really be, that's one of those other things we can create a crisis unnecessarily. this country is not going to basically deny it's debt. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: so anyway, i think we can do
or the economy. > a tough white house ally, nglinois senator dick durbin argued against using fiscal cliff pressures to scale back paidare and medicaid benefits. >> these are people that have paid in over a lifetime into protectecurity and medicare and fully expect the protection bech they've invested in to be that'snd it has to be there. republicans anyblicans are demanding in any fiscal cliff deal. o raisew never to raise taxes on the w o entitlement programs now gobbling up more than 60% of annual federal spending. that means the white house to dough if i liberal democrats or >> the p enrage republicans. ted to thesident is very committed to the proposition itht we can deal with these challenges if we come together oach.dopt a balanced approach. >> i may sound glib what i'm about to say but this white house is really serious about an issuewhen it goes to twitter. anew white house hash tag on preserving the middle class tax preserving. that's $2,000, average amount that taxes would rise if the bush era texas cuts are not ttended. eek white house plans to hammer its issue all week, believ
everything on the table. >> but when asked if he'd be willing to reform social security, senator durbin says social security doesn't add one penny to the debt. that it's a separately funded operation. one final note, the president was out shopping on saturday and when asked by a pool reporter if that was his part to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the president said, come on, guys, we're just christmas shopping here. that's it from the white house. talks expected to continue this week. back to you. >> steve: let the games begin. douglas, thank you. >> gretchen: now to the rest of today's headlines, brand-new evidence that could have changed the outcome of the casey anthony murder trial. police in florida now admitting that they missed a google search done by someone in the anthony household. the search seems kind obvious. it was for the words, foolproof suffocation. the search done the same day two-year-old caylee anthony was last seen live. the mom acquitted of her daughter's murder, even her defense attorney says he was shocked this never came up in court. >> steve: meanwhile, it's like
that from the democrats. bill: interesting. dick durbin suggested perhaps they need to talk about this we'll see further on that from their side very soon. stuart, thank you. >> bill. bill: see you at 9:20 on fbn. stuart varney with us. here's martha. martha: big word reform, in taxes and entitlements. will that happen? senator graham is not the only republican that says he believes something needs to be done to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think everybody should be on the table. i am myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact is the speaker and majority leader and president will be in a room trying to find the best package. i'm not going to prejudge it. saying we should not take ironclad positions. i have faith in john boehner putting together a good package. he is very conciliatory in his language. >> i do am opposed to raising tax rates but i do believe we can close loopholes. >> they have to go up real tax rates or effective tax rates. there are ways to do that. secondly we have to close significant loopholes. martha: all right. what are we hearing here? are he starting to hear a li
. and the numbers are staggering. as dick durbin pointed out recently when lyndon johnson was majority leader of the senate democratic majority leader of the senate. for six years, there was one filibuster. one filibuster. the last six years under republican leadership, there have been 380 filibusters in the senate. they filibuster everything including -- one of the most outrageous examples, republicans in the senate filibustered the james -- september 11th health and compensation act which would have provided healthcare for the heroes the first responders of september 11th. republicans filibustered that and prevented it from coming to a vote in the senate. so it doesn't matter good or bad if the democrat was for it, republicans filibustered it. and they did so by -- it was sort of like a -- a virtual filibuster. it is no longer the day when they bring in the cots and they make them actually speak. they just threaten to filibuster and that's all they have to do and it is just as effective and -- effectively blocks a measure at al
continue today. we are going to be covering the discussion with dick durbin, the assistant majority leader, democrat of illinois at any event today. live coverage on c-span, 11:30, c-span and, . if you miss it, go to our video library. on the front page of the financial times, stepping down from the sec. mary schaepiro is stepping down after nearly four years in charge of the top stock market regulator. bill, maryland, on our line for independents. what are your thoughts? caller: i think we have already gone over it a long time ago. we are like a family or small business that is bringing in $200,000 each year. their borrowing in other $100,000 each year. and then you hear these people talking about, we are going to raise the taxes on the rich. what is that going to do? bring in other a thousand dollars and. it is insane. these politicians have screwed us, screwed our children. they just keep reelecting the same people. in the wall street journal this morning -- they write this, why $16 trillion only hint of the true united states debt. the actual liabilities of the federal government inclu
time ago. >> that's all i need to know. >>> tomorrow, tim pawlenty, illinois senator dick durbin and singer dionne warwick. >> great show. meanwhile, cnn "newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. >>> tear gas in cairo near the u.s. embassy as the fight for democracy goes on. >> face to face. susan rice and john mccain, the man who wanted watergate style hearings, meet. and only cnn catches up with mccain before the big meeting. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one who asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? >>> spyfall, real-life bond movie. yasser arafat's body was exhumed. was the palestinian leader po h poisoned by israeli spies? >>> plus this. >> you said walden is in trouble. >> i'm the trouble walden has been in, repeatedly. >> he calls it filth, the half in "two and a half men" begs you not to watch his show. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. we begin with a high stakes meeting just m
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